ReOpen911.info : Site d'information sur les attentats du 11 septembre 2001

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00:00 - 03:45

I'm Richard Gage, and I'm an architect, and I've started the Architects & Engineers for 9/11 Truth.

I've been an architect for 20 years and I've worked in most types of building construction from residential, commercial, office, retail, you name it. I'm currently working on a large project in Nevada with over 360,000 sq. ft. [pieds carrés] of high-rise office space and a 1,000,000 sq. ft. of retail [space], including a couple of parking garages. All in all, over 1,200 tons of steel framing.

I was on my way to a construction site when I heard on the radio David Ray Griffin being interviewed. I had never heard anything about the World Trade Center other than the official story and what I heard from him, being interviewed on CPFA in Berkeley, California, was shocking to me. I heard evidence of controlled demolition and I had to pull over and listen to the rest of this interview. He was talking about beams being hurled 500 ft. laterally, concrete being pulverised, no stacks of 110 floors at the bottom of the World Trade Center. It went on and on and on including sounds and sights of explosions heard by 118 fire[men] and other first responders. I was moved to find out if this is true or not, and over the last 14 months I determined that this is indeed true, and it changed my world, turned it upside down in fact, inspiring me to found the Architects & Engineers for 9/11 Truth.

In your quest over that year+ [the 14 months] to investigate the claims of David Ray Griffin, was it a gradual realising [realisation] that the official version was a fraud? Or did it finally...was it a flash point where you just...then all the pieces came together? [HT: Est-ce que vous avez réalisé petit à petit ou est-ce que c'était d'un coup?]

I'd have to say it was pretty quick because everything made sense. There's no part of the official story that made sense as I re-read the official story in light of [une fois j'ai entendu] the evidence for controlled demolition it fell together pretty rapidly, and I knew what I had to do within a couple of weeks. It just came to me. We had pilots for 9/11 Truth, we have Scholars for 9/11 Truth, I said, "Where are the Architects and engineers?", "Who's pulling them together?". There was nobody!

So I founded the Architects & Engineers for 9/11 Truth. We had one. I was the 1st one. Then we had the second one. Now we have 160 all together and within 1 year we'll have 1000.

The first presentation that I gave the firm that I worked for of 15 architects, almost all of whom were sceptical, I would say 14 out of 15 signed up, so that got me to 16 architects. When architects and engineers see this information they can't NOT agree with most of it. Some don't agree with all of it, but they're moved, and 14 of these [people] signed up to call upon Congress to demand a new investigation of the events of 9/11, an investigation that's unimpeachable and with subpoena power.

03:45 - 14:42

How important is Kevin Ryan's story early on when he becomes aware in his own firm that they've done a secret study and found that the official story doesn't hold up, and he's told to shut up, could you just walk through in a nutshell the Kevin Ryan story?

Kevin Ryan is a whistleblower at UL. He exposed to the public the fact that UL's...UL was hired by NIST to perform a series of 4 tests with varying degrees of fireproofing of the actual steel structure that was actually in the World Trade Center: a 35 ft. span of floor trusses with 4 in. concrete over metal decking. Now, the tests were...what he showed us was that UL tested this with 2000° of heat underneath these steel trusses and twice the amount of known loading on top, and guess what, the structure only sagged a couple...2 or 3 inches, and NIST turned around, threw that test out the window and used a 42in. sag. Now why did they do this? Probably to try to prove their effort that the sagging floor trusses pulled in the columns and that's their overall theory, the column failure theory.

But could that cause the shattering and the beams being ejected hundreds of yards? Could that cause the pulverising [pulverisation] of the concrete? If we had a pancake, we'd have this big stack of concrete at the bottom, but we'll walk through all of that.

Yeah, good.

Could you tell us about some of the other prominent engineering and architectural people that are now speaking out against the official story.

Most recently we had Dr. Quintiere, former chief of NIST's Fire Science Division, calling for an independent review of the World Trade Center Investigation, and this is no small fry, this gentleman is halfway to realising that these buildings were demolished himself, but what he notes particularly is the deficits in the NIST review, and says that we need a complete new review, he calls for them to be un-archived, made public and to get a...to obtain a new investigation. We also have Joel Hirschorn, a PhD who served 12 years as senior staff member [at the] Congressional Office of Technology Assessment. He's calling for a new independent 9/11 investigation saying, first let the technical truth emerge then, if necescary, cope with the inevitable political conspiracy and other questions.

What we have to get doan to is the science, and once you get to the science, it's undisputable. The official story is so full of non-science, of myth, of fable, that people are waking up left and right, for instance Lynn Margulis PhD, member of the National Academy of Sciences and world renowned scientist, characterises the official account of 9/11 as a fraud and is calling for a new investigation. She says, I suggest that those of us who are aware and concerned demand that the glaring erroneous account of 9/11 be dismissed as fraud and a new thorough unimpeachable investigation be undertaken.

Next we have a member of AE911Truth, J. Marx Ayres, former member of the National Institute of Science's Building Safety Council and former member of the California Seismic Safety Council, calling for a new investigation. He says it's a rallying cry for all building design experts to speak out.

Is this the way Professor Jones and many others have described this, and it really fits the bill for other scientific controversies we've seen like when they got mad at Copernicus for saying that the world was really round and then Galileo saying that the earth orbited the sun, not the sun [orbiting] the earth, and then for a while the government, the media and the church will suppress them, but then very soon it creates this a debate scientifically that verifies their discoveries. But you guys aren't even fighting over new scientific laws, you're fighting for what's known about scientific laws and how buildings fall, do you have any comments about the whole scientific debate.

You framed that well. What we're talking about is science here. Science is as old as Newton and prior [to his time/epoch]. When we have a group of scientists and engineers and architects and scholars such as [has been] assembled by the various groups, the 9/11 truth groups, Scholars for 9/11 Truth, Architects & Engineers for 9/11 Truth, soon Scientists for 9/11 Truth, we have a body of evidence based on a set of scientific principles that we all agree on, so real soon here it's going to turn over the official story which has been proven to be NOT based on scientific principles but political manipulation of science.

What you see when you go to the website Architects & Engineers for 9/11 Truth, which is AE911Truth.org, is a set of evidence for the controlled demolition of Building 7 and buildings 1 & 2.

Really, one of the biggest pieces of proof that it's an inside job isn't just all the physical evidence, it's then how the government and the media try to cover up that evidence - that's the guilt because it's literally acting very suspicious[ly].

Well for instance, John Gross denying that there's molten. I mean, I can go through all of that. There're numerous witnesses, we show 2 on the website, on the upper-right corner you can see this list of evidence for controlled demolition at the World Trade Center 7, 1 & 2. At Building 7, a 47 story skyscraper, not hit by an airplane on 9/11, it fell symmetrically, smoothly, at virtually free-fall speed into its own footprint, a perfect controlled demolition - just like all the controlled demolitions that we've seen numerous times on TV.

What are the features of a controlled demolition? One at a time, we have a rapid onset of destruction at the base of the building. We have 2 witnesses who talk about explosions, huge, bursting the windows out, and then the building comes down. That's in direct violation of the official story which talks about fires softening the steel and then bringing the building down. Well, there's only graphic evidence for 2 or 3 fires in that building. 5th, 12th and maybe 13th floor. The Securities & Exchange Commission was on the 12th and 13th floor. These [fires] are on the north side of the building on the far side, away from the World Trade Center tower. There was some smoke. There's lots of evidence of smoke on the south side facing the tower. The official story tells us that the steel was softened, but if that was the case and this building fell due to fires, fires by their nature creep from place to place leaving one area cool and burning another area, that would force an asymmetrical collapse, the building would tip over. Only a handful of companies in the United States are qualified to...and skilled enough to bring a building down symmetrically into its own footprint. So for the first time in history fires have down what only a handful of demolition companies are capable of doing, and they don't always do it perfect[ly], there are a number of rather hilarious examples of controlled demolitions gone wrong, but this one was beautiful at World Trade Center 7, if it weren't otherwise so tragic. So we have a rapid onset of destruction at the base with these explosions, then we have the sounds of explosions heard by the witnesses, Craig Bartmer of the New York Police Department another emergency responder. We have the symmetrical collapse. It doesn't tip over at all. It goes straight down into its own footprint. We have evidence of squibs in World Trade Center 7 - these are mistimed explosions, they go off at the wrong time. Look on the website at the upper 7 stories on the right side of the building in the flash video, you'll see, poof, poof, poof, poof, poof, synchronisticly timed, floor by floor, puffs of dark smoke which is also direct evidence of controlled demolition. We have the building falling into its own footprint and as it does there is a tremendous surge of pyroclastic dust flow, shaped like a cauliflower. The fire's enfolding itself due to the tremendous heat. Where did that heat come from? Most controlled demolitions are produced with C4 or RDX explosives. If you want to blame a building collapse on a fire what you'd use is something more silent such as thermite. Thermite's by-product is molten iron, Molten iron is 4 to 5000° in heat and this produces a tremendous pyroclastic dust cloud as well. The New York Fire Department found tons of this molten iron underneath not only Building 7 but underneath Building 1 & 2 as well, flowing like lava they say. There's numerous witnesses including the World Trade Center's structural engineer, Leslie Robertson, who was quoted as saying, "21 days after the event of 9/11 the molten metal was still running". So where does that come from? As I mentioned the by-product of thermite is molten metal. Thousands of cutter charges placed throughout the building would produce tons of molten metal. Now John Gross of NIST denies there's any molten metal, and this is a flat[-out] lie, and as a result the Architects & Engineers for 9/11 Truth as well as Steven Jones and Kevin Ryan and other family members of those who lost their lives [on] 9/11, are demanding a request for correction of NIST for this point and many other points that are flawed, why?

14:42 - 24:07

That's a big deal, I know you're about to say why, he came to UT, he said there is no molten metal, he laughed, the people laughed, but then we have all the aerial photographs, we have the federal government releasing them saying weeks and weeks later, over a month later there's these molten pools. It's been a big public controversy and they just say, hey it doesn't exist.

Yeah.

That's a big deal! and as you said one of dozens of things where they just deny things that are public and already admitted. I mean, they're the conspiracy theorists. Everybody knows there was molten metal. The government admitted it took the photos, the thermal photos. What, 3 different agencies got them, I mean, talk about this specifically.

Yeah, so, John Gross is denying that there's molten metal. He says there's no evidence of it, nobody's produced it, it's a direct bold-faced lie, and that's why we've demanded a new investigation. That's why we've also called for a request for correction of NIST. There's plenty of eyewitness reports of this molten metal - Sarah Atlas citing that there's molten metal flowing beneath my feet. We have 3 firemen on video talking about molten metal flowing like lava and John Gross is denying that there's any evidence. We have tons of previously molten metal pulled out of the ground sitting in aircraft hangers - they call them meteorites. There's plenty of evidence of previously molten metal - tons of it.

NASA has created photos of the World Trade Center site showing areas of temperature range up to 13 1400° on the surface indicating far greater temperatures below the surface. On our site in fact we have a photograph of a backhoe picking up a chunk of molten...of metal which is dripping with molten metal. Some of this previously molten metal was sent to DJ Steven Jones of Brigham Young University, formerly of of Brigham Young University. He's a physicist PhD who analyzed the slag and the steel samples and the dust. What did he find in hit? The chemical trace signature of thermite, in fact thermate, a high-tech form of thermite with sulfur added which lowers the melting temperature of steel. Thermite is an incendiary used by the military to cut through steel like a hot knife through butter. What he found was manganese, fluorine, potassium and other chemicals in their correct proportions that strongly suggest thermite was used.

Even FEMA found rapid oxidation, sulfidation and inter-granular melting in the ends of these beams and columns. Why is that so important? Because it's direct evidence of the use of thermate sulfur sulfidation . What did NIST do with this information? Nothing. They dropped it out of the whole picture in an effort to hide all the evidence for controlled demolition - this is a crime.

We have expert corroboration for a controlled demolition, Danny Jowenko, a top European demolition expert cited, "This is a controlled demolition", "a team of experts did this", "without a doubt, it's professional work". Hugo Bachman, structural engineer, emeritus, in Switzerland cited, "This is controlled demolition", "we have foreknowledge of the collapse of World Trade Center 7". The BBC announced it, in fact, 20 minutes before it actually happened at 5 o'clock with Jane Stanley citing the 47 story Salomon Brothers building collapsed due to structural failure. Well never before in history had a high-rise building collapse due to structural failure from fires, and she's announcing it 20 minutes before it happened. Well, the BBC apologized for the mistake citing the confusing events of the day.

The firemen had pulled out all of their resources from the building early in the afternoon, and they're looking at each other wondering why they are not fighting the fire, there's some people who are telling them, "the building's gonna come down". Well again, never before in history has a building come down, a high-rise, steel-framed, fireproofed building come down, and there's hundreds of examples by the way. For instance in Caracas, Venezuela, the 56 story building burned for 17 hours over 26 floors. In Los Angeles 3 and a half hours over 5 floors, the First Interstate Bank. In Philadelphia the Meridian Plaza building burned 18 hours over 8 floors. And in New York [a] 50 story building, it burned for 6 hours but...these were large, lon lasting, very hot fires and every one of those buildings is in use today. What we're talking about is 2 or 3 small fires in World Trade Center 7 and it comes straight down, symmetrically, into its own footprint as a result? we don't think so! This is why we demand a new investigation of Congress with subpoena power.

The gravitational kinetic energy available in the collapse of the 2 Twin Towers for instance has to account for...

1) The crushing of 80,000 tons of intact structural steel beneath it
2) The production of molten metal which we've talked about - tons of it
3) The pulverization of concrete to a fine powder ranging from 10 to 100 microns in size and some gravel.
4) The expansion of the pyroclastic dust clouds to 10 times the size of the building.

Now 100,000 kilowatt hour available gravitational potential in each tower cannot account for even one of these, let alone all 3 [HT: il a oublié le 4ème!].

The collapse of World Trade Center 1 & 2 is quite different. Architects and engineers are not trained with controlled demolition. We have to rely on the so-called experts, and these so-called experts are highly compromised due to their $10 million contracts (some of them), Therese McAllister, Gene Corley...

All of them.

...John Gross.

Every one I've ever seen has got $3 million defense contracts, government con...all of them. They were on Federal Boards - it's a joke.

And World Trade Center 1 & 2, we have the onset of destruction at the point of the jetliner impacts because we're being led to believe that this was produced by fire. So what we have instead of a classical controlled demolition of an implosion, we have an explosion where beams and columns are dismembered from each other. These are welded moment frame connections in a core structure of the World Trade Center 1 & 2. They're blown up to 500 ft. laterally impaling themselves into surrounding windows. There's blast waves that blew out windows 400 ft. away. There are bone fragments the size...a half an inch, 700 hundred of them on the  Deutsche Bank building across the street, on that building alone. Why are they so small? A gravitational collapse cannot count for that type of a mechanism.

Can you break in down in layman's terms that little fires and a building collapsing,it's gonna be in a big pile, it's not gonna be pieces of bone blown across the street on top of buildings.

These fires were on their way to going out. The South Tower was virtually out. Chief Orio Palmer in fact reached the 78th floor stating, I can put it out with two lines, two small pockets of fires. So how did these small fires put 700 bone fragments on top of the Deutsche Bank building across the street. Bone fragments that small. A gravitational collapse would encase most of the bodies inside of it and tak[e] it down. Of the 1,000 recorded interviews of first responders we have 118 of them talking about explosions and flashes of light. This was only secured as a result of a New York Times [law]suit against the city and won by New York State Court of Appeals. Why were they trying to hide it? because these 118 eyewitness accounts of explosions and flashes of light prior to the onset of collapse are key.

At the North Tower in the gaping hole left by the airplane we have a woman waving for help. There's no raging inferno. So how can a fire, that isn't even destroying most of the people in the building at the point of the jetliner impact, hurl beams all of a sudden 500 ft. latterly?

24:07 - 31:02

Again, the amount of energy in that fire isn't melting the humans, isn't burning the humans, isn't killing the humans, and then suddenly right at the same point exactly, with incredible Godzilla force it just...rahhhhh...ripping everything, and blowing it sky-high, I mean it's just ridiculous. There's explosive force there, and massive [On y voit une force massive et explosive].

I didn't say it as eloquently as you.

It's incredible.

Let's talk about the squibs at World Trade Center 1 & 2.  20, 40 and 60 stories below the ensuing collapse we have sets of ejected building materials, which NIST calls puffs of air due to the piledriver pushing down the building and creating these puffs of air down the elevator shafts and [then] out [of the side of the building]. Well first of all they're not puffs of air, they're pulverised building materials. Second of all these are explosive speeds of 100-200 ft. per second. Third of all, there's no piledriver pushing down the building; in 4 seconds the building mass above the point of impact is exploded and disintegrated and hurled latterly such that after that [those] about 4 seconds, the building is just pulling itself apart. You can see it very clearly in the videos once you look at it after you know what you're looking for. It took me 4/5 years to realise what was going on in the World Trade Center has to be explained, then you have to look at it and then you go...ah ha! Also if air was coming down the elevator shaft filling the open space surrounding the core structure of the Twin Towers, it would fill that space uniformly and blow several windows out. It wouldn't be highly focalized explosions at the mid point between the corners of the buildings.

The science is very clear. These buildings World Trade Center 1, 2 & 7 were controlled demolitions, and there's been quite an effort on the part of the 9/11 Commission, FEMA and NIST to cover-up this fact and Architects & Engineers for 9/11 Truth are demanding a new investigation, unimpeachable, with subpoena power [from] the US Congress.

Richard, since you discovered this, since you found out that the official story is a fraud, how has this change your life? how has this, how has this changed your world view? I mean, how has this affected you?

Yeah.

My life has been turned upside-down by these revelations of the controlled demolitions because the implications are far more disastrous than the demolitions themselves. Al-Qaeda didn't have access to these buildings - that can be assumed. That means somebody else did. Other than requiring a new investigation Architects & Engineers for 9/11 Truth have to look at ourselves. I have to look at myself. What my role in society is. If somebody in our government was responsible for these demolitions then everybody in America needs to know about it, and I've dedicated my life therefore to waking up everybody to the truth of the science of these demolitions, and we'll have to let the chips fall where they may [Hors Trad: "to let the chips fall where they may" = faire quelque chose sans s'inquiéter des effets de cette action].

You talked about turning your life upside-down, I mean, is it bitter-sweet? has it opened up a lot of new horizons? or from the life you had before, now you're this national figure out there waking up so many people, I mean, overall are you glad you woke up? or [any] other thoughts on that.

I'd much rather be where I was, but you know, you can't go back.

Why can't you go back? Some people just decide to rationalize and lie to themselves and say, "No, you know, the moon's made of cheese", "George Bush is a good Christian conservative" and "There's [been] no government terror[ism] in history", "There's no False Flag attacks", "Mom and apple pie" [HT: typically American], "America can do no wrong", you know, hey, buildings just blow up and turn into dust and fly all over the city for [à cause de] little fires. Why can't you just believe in the fairy tail like other people? They can! They believe Saddam had WMDs, they believe Shiites are Sunnis (the general public does). Why can't you just believe up is down and down is up, black is white, white is black?

They more you learn about 9/11 the more undermined your world view gets because everything is upside-down, relationships are changed. The world doesn't look like a safe place to bring up my son. I'm not able to go about life normally any more. I have a job, I keep my job, but everything I do after that job is dedicated to waking up the American people to the truth about these demolitions and we'll let the chips fall where they may. First we start with the architects & engineers because they have the necessary credibility to turn heads in the halls of Congress. So by next year we'll have 1000 Architects & Engineers for 9/11 Truth and then everybody will listen.

I think they're already listening. In just a few months you've gotten over 160 members, you're speaking every couple of weeks in different parts of the country, you've got a documentary out. Believe me I have already seen, personally, the ripples in Austin Texas from what you're doing, because I know architects & engineers in Austin that are now looking into the claims and going, "Yeah, that never made sense", "That is impossible", "Buildings don't [explosion noise]". It's simple you know there's an explosion, you know something's been blown to bits, and they pulverised Tower 1 & 2, perfect, classic demolition [with Building] 7. Whoever did this, why do you think they thought they could get away with it?

There you go again. Every radio show you ask me that question, and I don't have an answer. Why they thought they could get away with it? I don't know.

The question is, "Will they get away with it?"

OK, I'll answer that. I don't believe that whoever pulled this farce on the American people will get away with it. People are waking up by the millions now. The 9/11 Truth Movement is growing and I am honored to be a small part of that.

But I guarantee you, if we [hadn't] have exposed 9/11 as an Inside Job, they would already have staged more events - and that's why its so important Richard what you're doing, and I know it's a sacrifice but overall it's going to make your life a whole lot more fulfilled, I know it's made mine more fulfilled, and you've really helped wake a lot of people up, and so I commend you for your passion, your research and your courage to check out the scientific facts and then to go out there and to start warning the public once you had made the discovery that the official story was a fraud. So thank you so much for talking to us. Anything else you would like to add?

I can't think of anything.

Richard Gage, thank you so much.

Thank you Alex.

[unintelligible] appreciate that.

Transcription fini!

Dernière modification par DJDaveMark (11-04-2008 14:45:55)

Je n'ai malheureusement ni le temps ni les compétences pour aider à la traduction, en revanche je peux aider à relecture si besoin... Respect à tous en tout cas pour ce travail de traduction si essentiel...

Dernière modification par onegus (31-03-2008 07:35:23)

http://forum.wordreference.com/showthread.php?t=895162

J'adore ce forum, et le recommande chaudement !

J'y ai souvent laissé des "entrées" comme cela, et n'ai jamais subi la moindre rebuffade

Trouvé!!! 

Therese McAllister
http://wtc.nist.gov/pi/wtc_profiles.asp … mcallister

NIST a écrit:

Dr. McAllister’s research interests include reliability-based structural assessment, performance of structures in fire, structural stability and progressive collapse, and improved prediction of structural performance in extreme events. Dr. McAllister will be conducting research in the Structural Fire Response and Collapse project of the NIST World Trade Center Investigation.

Position
Research Structural Engineer

Task
Co-Project Leader, Project 6:
Structural Fire Response and Collapse

Education
Florida Atlantic University, 1979, BS Ocean Engineering
Oregon State University, 1986, MS Ocean Engineering
Johns Hopkins University, 1998, MS Structural Engineering
Johns Hopkins University, 2000, PhD Structural Engineering

Je ne savais pas que ce monsieur était déjà cité dans le forum, (merci Dave ) il se trouve que la dernière version de September 11th Revisited contient une interview de lui.

Je suis en train de terminer le sous-titrage de cette version, et cette interview sera donc disponible sous-titrée très bientôt grâce à la traduction de Dave, je vous tiens au courant dès que c'est prêt..

Une autre interview Jones-Gage

Alex Jones accueille Richard Gage d'Architectes et Ingénieurs Pour la Vérité du 11/09 pour discuter des derniers preuves qui montre que l' 11/09 était un coup monté ainsi que les tribulations que Gage a enduré pour pouvoir présenter ses preuves, y compris quand le debunkers a célébré le fait que sa femme lui a quité après que Gage a reçu les menaces de mort.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1PeHLwATVPg



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=STCbARtg1ec



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2zuLWt-gPMc

Poursuivez-vous le sous-titrage de l'interview de Richard Gage? Il apporte beaucoup de crédit de par son statut et ses justes paroles.

    C'est typiquement le genre de vidéo très efficace auprès d'un public cultivé ..et sceptique/goguenard, à qui il faut ce genre de gars pour commencer à passer outre le sarcasme.

    Je guette sa finalisation, tout en gardant à l'esprit le temps que cela prend. Merci pour tout ce taf remarquable.

Dernière modification par hussard noir (22-06-2008 18:58:12)

hussard noir a écrit:

Poursuivez-vous le sous-titrage de l'interview de Richard Gage?

ça y est, j'ai fini le sous-titrage.

Il ne me reste plus qu'à changé le couleur du texte d'Alex Jones puis décompresser le .mov de haute qualité puis le ré-compresser en .avi avec les sous-titres, en passant par SHA GUA DAN pour une vérification/correction. 

Dernière modification par DJDaveMark (04-07-2008 08:38:23)

l'interview Gage-Jones VOSTFR en haute qualité Xvid et maintenant disponible :

11-septembre.com/video/RichardGageAvril2008Xvid.avi (244Mo)

Je vais le rajouter sur  ReOpen911.blip.tv/YouTube/GoogleVideo/DailyMotion  puis sur megaupload.com après je l'enlève du 11-septembre.com après ~1 mois.

hussard noir a écrit:

Beaucoup d'admiration pour tout ce travail, qui doit demander une sacrée organisation personnelle! Thanxx:)

L'Union fait la force!

Très bonne interview de Gage, succinte, claire et terriblement argumentée. Il annonce plus de 1000 soutients d'architectes et de scientifiques à ses cotés d'ici quelques mois. Le mouvement prend une grosse tournure il semble bien. Les médias aux ordres vont devoir faire feu de tous bois pour faire passer tous ces scientifiques pour des guignols . Mais s'il n'y a pas de véritables mouvements de masse des peuples pour faire éclater la vérité, je crains fort que tout ceci ne soit inutile... Il ne nous reste donc plus qu'à convaincre tout le monde, à les emmener dans une gigantesque manifestation qui se déroulerait en même temps partout dans les villes du monde entier et avec le soutient des scientifiques, nous auront peut être une chance de voir les plans des néo cons ou autres réduits à néant, au moins pour un temps car ils ne seront pas éliminés pour autant...

Dernière modification par samaouste (04-07-2008 09:35:17)

En ligne ici : http://www.reopen911.info/video/intervi … -2008.html - Coool

Et ici : http://scoopeo.com/videos/interview-de- … -septembre - Votez !