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Bonjour suite à plusieurs recherche sur les victimes(ou plutot supposées vitimes) du vol 93, j'ai découvert ce lien en format PDF.
Vous y trouverai la photo the Todd Beamer.POur conclure mon Travail j'ai besoin d'un traducteur japonnais ou chinois, afin de traduire cette page.
Il m'est malheureusement impossble de faire un copier coller du texte dans un traducteur et je ne sais pas comment faire autrement.J'espère que vous pourrez m'aider.
Je vais bientôt confirmer mon hypothèse de la mise en scène et de certains acteurs.
Merci
http://www.oracle.co.jp/2shin/backup/ora50/50_39.pdf
Est ce que je pourrais savoir pourquoi personne ne prend soin de répondre à mes messages?
Dernière modification par stéphanie (02-05-2007 15:03:47)
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Allez courrage
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Salut Stéphanie ![]()
N'y voit là surtout aucune sorte de mépris de la part d'aucun membre du forum je soupçonne qu'il n'y a surement personne pour traduire le Japonais ou le Chinois.
D'autre part je viens d'ouvrir le document que tu as eu la gentillesse de nous soumettre et je ne vois que des photos ET des lignes qui ne sont ni du Chinois ni du Japonais, mais qui ressemblerait presque à du morse...
Peut être mon poto ragondin parle t'il aussi le morse
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Sérieusement Stéphanie je vais essayer de voir à quoi cela peut correspondre sans pouvoir te donner hélas de garantie quant au résultat.
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The american tragedy Worldwide Corporate Visit Center (CVC), ORACLE CORPORATION Kitagawa summer child everyone, today. A little, we were neglected, but it probably is vigorous? Last month [riniyuaru] it was done from the number, it continued to “new oracle communication” and, it came to the point of with serializing. I saw, if America from various angles, can be expressed in my word, you think. How do you do! In order for you to know, now (writing presently) America has received very circumstance. If originally, this season of the busiest expectation, CVC visit of the customer who is planned becomes cancellation entirely during my 1 years, unexpectedly passes quiet every day. September 11th, when at that incident happens, I have entered the last day of summer vacation in Japan, it was the schedule which returns to San Francisco on the 12th of the next day. Worrying my body, although you appreciate in friendship of the friends who use the telephone, at each time tremendous image flows from the television, safety of the acquaintance who is in San Francisco and New York did not become worry. It tried telephoning to America, but it was not connected easily. It is to come to the point of being able to return to San Francisco 1 weeks later, but with distance to the home, you looked at many American half mast truly from the airport. Even at the infrequent office, after all many American national flags were viewed to. And, the American national flag was placed even in my desk. Our colleagues Todd Beamer, riding United Air Lines 93 flight of the New Jersey departure San Francisco going for meeting with the customer, while to try to arrest the terrorist dropped life. The colleague everyone, spoke the memory of Todd which it has often visited in CVC unanimously, cried at that each time. In addition, thinking 7 employees who with World Trade Center (international trade center building) become sacrifice, they were not other personal affairs under any condition, going to work in sad countenance continued in all. Now, as for being able to make we just being what? Although making in surprise the small bamboo grass of the thing which by yourself can do, something what it is possible that is thinking with utmost effort whether it is not, but the kana which is to have vigor and the perseverance which it tries that also 1 days probably will quickly return in usual life, it has started realizing. As for here bay area, the person of various race is truly. As for [chimumeito] of the Iranian person, you are worried about the thing of the small younger brother who is hard on in the school, the manager of the Brazilian person who gets married with the Indian person is worried about the thing of the son where name of Islam is attached. As for [chimumeito] of Japanese American, “similar thing at the time of the pearl harbor happened to the family. The parents it is the Japanese, with the notion that where, extremely were in the balance eye.”With you said. After the disaster occurring, Hate Crime (crime of hate) for the American of the Arabian type is increased rapidly. American politics and the leader of religion call the prevention of such Hate Crime desperately, such as installation of the hot line of race prejudice and the protection by the officer, with various expedients, the Arabian system, have endeavored in protection of the south Asian type American citizen and the resident. The tragedy which happens in the national America of freedom even excessively was big ones, but America does not stop believing that it has also perseverance and the conduct power which get over this tragedy. You pass we not only not praying the fact that also 1 days peace day returns quickly simply, with the strong will peace it keeps resetting to day by our own power. We wait for opinion and thought. Natsuko.Kitagawa@oracle.com
Traduction google.
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merci coubiac
Je suppose que les points que je vois moi sur le document d'Adaube résulteront d'un problème de scripts...
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T'as pas la polic chinoise en fait, et sinon on peut copier le texte d'un pdf
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C'est du japonais. J'ai dû ajouter le package de polices japonaises pour voir la page.
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Merci pour cette transcription.Moi je crois que Todd Beammer est au Japon.Alors il me reste quelqu recherche à faire.
Car si on regarde les dates du documents elle sont franchement éloignées du 11 Septembre 2001
Dernière modification par stéphanie (07-05-2007 23:06:13)
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Désolé mais Voici un héro à démentir Todd Beamer est le fils de David beamer qui a obtenu un contrat no-bid pour la reconstruction du pentagone.
Todd Beamer est décédé en 1997.Selon le registre des nsa
http://ssdi.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/ssdi.cgi
Voici un video sur youtube
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gJj0ewdnw4w.
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stéphanie a écrit:
Désolé mais Voici un héro à démentir Todd Beamer est le fils de David beamer qui a obtenu un contrat no-bid pour la reconstruction du pentagone.
Todd Beamer est décédé en 1997.Selon le registre des nsa
http://ssdi.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/ssdi.cgi
Voici un video sur youtube
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gJj0ewdnw4w.
Tu veux dire par là qu'il y a eu resurection? ![]()
Decidement entre les pirates et maintenant des victimes des vols cela fait beaucoup là! ![]()
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Le résultat donné par la ssd est sur un dénommé TODD E BEAMER né le 11 Sep 1968 et celui du vol 93 est TODD M (Morgan) BEAMER et né le 24 Nov 1968 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Todd_Beamer
La théorie de "no Todd Beamer" trouve une explication ici http://screwloosechange.blogspot.com/20 … heory.html
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Oui et de plus Todd Beamer est le fils de David Beamer le vice président de la compagnie mandaté pour la reconstruction du Pentagone.
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continue de creuse stephanie !! n'oublie pas de sauvegarder tous les documents et pages internet car ça disparait du web plus vite que l'on ne croit...
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J'ai trouvé le cimetière ou est supposé être la pierre de Todd Beamer.
PAr contre cette page m'est innacessible.
http://www.cranbury.org/index.shtml
Si vous défilez la page vous verrez image 31Beamer.
J'aimerais savoir ce que c'est et comment l'ouvrir SVP.
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Donc si j'essaye de résumer, le même Todd Beamer dont le père a eu le contrat de reconstruction du pentagone post-attentat, a été déclaré mort en 1997 - et enterré vu la photo, et est réapparu sur la liste du vol93 ??
Et tu l'a retrouvé après le 11 septembre au Japon ??????
Plusieurs explications :
- Ils ont remplis la liste officielle du vol93 avec des noms de morts
- Todd Beamer n'était pas dans ce cercueil, il a été mit dans le vol93 mais comment aurait-t-il pu survivre ? L'avion a été détruit par missile selon toute vraisemblance. A moins qu'il ne s'agissait pas du même avion mais de sa doublure. Il a découvert qu'il était sensé être mort et il est partit au Japon. Ou il en a été contraint par les organisateurs du 11 septembre lorsque son avion a attéri dans la base militaire.
Après John O'Neil, voici une autre personne qui pourrait être le sujet d'un thriller politique-action détonnant !
Dernière modification par Winston (23-05-2007 12:35:03)
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Citation du texte en japonais, apparement écrit d'un collaborateur de Todd Beamer (Natsuko.Kitagawa@oracle.com), et qui confirme qu'il était bien et toujours en vie :
"ur colleagues Todd Beamer, riding United Air Lines 93 flight of the New Jersey departure San Francisco going for meeting with the customer, while to try to arrest the terrorist dropped life. The colleague everyone, spoke the memory of Todd which it has often visited in CVC unanimously, cried at that each time."
Traduction :
"Notre collègue Todd Beamer a prit le vol United Air Lines 93, du New Jersey et à destination de San Francisco pour se rentre à une réunion avec le client, a tenté d'arrêter l'action suicidaire des terroristes. Tous les collègues ont pleuré à la mémoire de Todd qui avait souvent visité le CVC."
Tu lui a envoyé un mail Stephanie ?
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Winston a écrit:
Tu lui a envoyé un mail Stephanie ?
NON!! Devrais-je?
C'est à ne rien comprender.
Vous savez je pensais à quelque chose, LA compagnie Oracle est une compagnie de logiciel.
Est ce que vous saviez que sur les disques CD ou DVD il y a des initiales tel que EMA et que les profits réalisés par le vente de ceux-ci, servent à financer la fabrication d'Armes.
C'est ma fille qui me l'as annoncé suite à son cour de moral.
http://www.defense.gouv.fr/ema
Il y a tellement de chose que nous ne savons pas dans ce monde.
Alors en consommant nous même ces produits, nous financons nous même cette guerre!!!!!!!!
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Est ce que vous saviez que sur les disques CD ou DVD il y a des initiales tel que EMA et que les profits réalisés par le vente de ceux-ci, servent à financer la fabrication d'Armes.
C'est ma fille qui me l'as annoncé suite à son cour de moral.
http://www.defense.gouv.fr/ema
N'allons nous pas trop vite dans les accusations ?
les initiales EMA veulent dire certainement beaucoup de choses différentes ![]()
à bientôt ![]()
slut
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Oui restons en à Todd Beamer !!
Stephanie oui envoie donc un gentil mail a ce japonais pour lui demander de confirmer officiellement avoir été en collaboration avec Todd Beamer, et la dernière fois où il l'a vu vivant avant le 11 septembre.
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Liens possible entre Oracle et 9/11:
http://www.internetnews.com/ent-news/ar … hp/3445601
December 8, 2004
Ellison: Data Hubs Could Have Prevented 9/11
By Michael Singer
SAN FRANCISCO -- Oracle CEO Larry Ellison is convinced that had the intelligence community used a unified database from Oracle, the terrorist attacks on 9/11 would never have happened.
"As it was, Mohamed Atta passed through international customs saying he was visiting on a holiday, while the police in Broward County, Florida had an outstanding warrant for his arrest," Ellison said during his keynote at Oracle's OpenWorld conference here.
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Todd Beamer, voyage le 1er week-end de Sept.2001 pour 500 employés de la société Oracle en Italie, l'incendie de Newark le 10/09/2001, et l'information lancée par Ellison de l'acte héroïque de Todd avant même que le FBI l'affirme:
http://community.whptv.com/forums/thread/1943018.aspx
Todd Beamer, one of the people who supposedly fought terrorists on United Flight 93 on 9/11/2001, was employed by Oracle Corporation.
On 9/13/2001, Larry Ellison, chief executive officer (CEO) of Oracle, sent an email to Oracle employees. In this email, Ellison praised Todd for Todd's heroic actions in fighting the terrorists and in stopping the plane from reaching its destination in Washington DC.
(pages 184, 185)
There was just one problem. No authority from United Airlines or from the government had yet announced to Todd Beamer's family or to the public that Todd Beamer had been involved in fighting the terrorists. In fact, Lisa Beamer was told by a United Airlines employee in the evening of 9/14/2001 that the FBI had just publicly released information about Todd's heroics. So, Lisa wonders, how did Larry Ellison know about Todd's heroics one day before the FBI released the information to the public? (pages 185-188)
Maybe Larry Ellison helped the US Government concoct the "official" story of 9/11. Maybe Ellison arranged for Beamer to be on United Flight 93 for the sole purpose of providing a hero for the 9/11 story.
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Let us look at how Todd Beamer ended up on Flight 93 in the first place.
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During the first week of September 2001, Todd and Lisa Beamer were in Italy. Todd and Lisa were without their kids, but Todd and Lisa were not traveling alone. The Beamers were joined by 500 Oracle employees and guests. This trip was a reward from Oracle to employees who performed well. The trip was a combination of business and pleasure. During the daytime, the employees and guests went sightseeing. During the evening, there were business dinners. The final day of activities (sightseeing and business dinner) was 9/9/2001. (pages 148, 152, 153)
Because of the high number of people on this trip, it is very possible that CEO Ellison himself scheduled the trip.
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At some point before the trip to Italy began, Todd was told that he would be attending some meetings in San Francisco on 9/11/2001. Todd would have a meeting at 1:00 PM San Francisco time and a dinner meeting at night. (pages 153, 154)
Thus, before the start of the trip to Italy, Todd knew that he would have to be in Italy until 9/9/2001 and then in San Francisco on 9/11/2001.
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If the trip to Italy was scheduled by Ellison, then who scheduled the meetings in San Francisco? According to Lisa Beamer, the meetings in San Francisco were extremely important. Todd would be meeting with some executives from Sony Corporation, who would be flying in from Japan. The meetings would also include Oracle's chief financial officer (CFO). (pages 153, 154)
In most American companies, the CFO works closely with the CEO. Therefore, it is very likely that these meetings were scheduled by CEO Larry Ellison.
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Given that Todd would be in Italy for all of 9/9/2001 and that Todd had to be in San Francisco by 1:00 PM on 9/11/2001, Todd had two travel options:
1) Todd would fly to Newark International Airport in Newark, New Jersey, from Italy on 9/10/01 and would fly to San Francisco on the same day. On 9/11/01, Todd would attend his meetings.
2) Todd would fly to Newark on 9/10/01 and would fly to San Francisco on 9/11/01. Then Todd would attend his meetings on 9/11/01.
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The Beamers left Italy in the early morning of 9/10/01. Todd pondered his two choices while on the flight to Newark. Todd decided that he would arrive in Newark on 9/10/01, spend one night at home with his wife and his kids (whom he had not seen in a week), and then travel to San Francisco on 9/11/01.
(pages 153, 154, 158)
Actually, it is possible that Todd did not have to make any decision at all. There was a fire at Newark Airport in the late afternoon of 9/10/01. So, the evening flight to San Francisco that Todd thought about taking was cancelled. (page 158)
According to Lisa Beamer, Jeremy Glick, who would help Todd fight the terrorists, was supposed to fly to San Francisco from Newark in the evening of 9/10/01. Glick's plane was first supposed to land at Newark. However, the fire caused the plane to be rerouted to JFK Airport in New York City. Glick had the option of traveling from Newark Airport to JFK Airport (presumably by car, bus, or train) and boarding the plane to San Francisco at JFK Airport. However, Glick chose to go home to Hewitt, New Jersey, and to fly to San Francisco from Newark on 9/11/01. (page 204)
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Even without the fire, Larry Ellison could have reasonably assumed that Todd would choose to fly to San Francisco on 9/11/01. Ellison could have assumed that taking two long flights on the same day would be a big strain on Todd. Or, since Ellison knew that Todd's trip to Italy would be for adults only, Ellison could have reasonably assumed that Todd would want to spend one night with his kids before leaving town. However, the fire improved the chance that Todd would not fly out on 9/10/01. The fire certainly deterred Jeremy Glick from flying out on 9/10/01.
So, was that fire an act of arson? Was someone trying to make sure that Beamer and Glick flew out on 9/11/01?
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Also, why DID the fire deter Glick from flying out on 9/10/01?
It is a relatively short drive from Newark Airport to JFK Airport.
It can not be said that Glick wanted to spend one more night with his family before leaving town. Glick had a wife and a daughter, but they were vacationing in upstate New York. So, Glick went home to an empty house. So, was Glick really deterred by the fire? Or did Glick simply use the fire as an excuse to travel on 9/11/01?
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There are a few more items that should be mentioned.
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9/10/01 was a Monday. As mentioned above, on the plane from Italy to Newark, Todd Beamer thought about whether he should fly to San Francisco on 9/10/01 or 9/11/01. Another thing Todd thought about on the plane was the workweek ahead. Todd was dreading the upcoming workweek. Todd was not looking forward to that week at all. This attitude troubled Lisa Beamer. In the past, Todd had always been excited about work, even during challenging times. However, Todd was now complaining that he would have a lot on his plate at work that week. (pages 154, 155)
So, the obvious questions are the following: Why was Todd so afraid of work suddenly? What was Todd told by his bosses at Oracle about that workweek? What did Todd think was going to happen?
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Jonathan Oomrigar worked in one of Oracle's California offices and was one of Todd Beamer's favorite Oracle co-workers. Jonathan participated in the Oracle trip to Italy, and, before the trip to Italy, Jonathan and Todd had traveled together on business to Israel. (page 148)
According to Todd's cell-phone records (which Lisa Beamer presumably saw after Todd died), Todd called Jonathan on the morning of 9/11/2001. According to Lisa, Todd and Jonathan spoke about Todd's San Francisco meetings. (page 191)
Presumably, Todd's phone records do not reveal the content of the conversation. So, only Todd and Jonathan would know for certain what the conversation was about. Since Todd is supposedly dead, Jonathan would be Lisa's source as to the content of the conversation.
So, what did Todd and Jonathan do in Israel? What did Todd and Jonathan discuss while they were in Italy? And what did Jonathan and Todd discuss on the morning of 9/11/2001?
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Oracle CEO Larry Ellison has a connection to Israel. In September 2001, Ellison owned 70% of an Israeli company called Quark Biotech.
Source: 9/3/2001 article in Fortune magazine
http://money.cnn.com/magazines/fortune/ … /index.htm
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In summary, we have the following:
1) Both the trip to Italy and Todd's meetings in San Francisco may have been scheduled by Oracle CEO Larry Ellison.
2) Given the schedule of the trip to Italy and the San Francisco meetings, Todd Beamer had only two options for traveling to San Francisco (9/10/01 or 9/11/01).
3) In order to spend time with his children, Todd chose to travel on 9/11/01. However, even if Todd had chosen to travel on 9/10/01, the 9/10/01 fire at Newark Airport would probably have prevented Todd from doing that.
The fire did prevent Jeremy Glick, Todd's partner in fighting terrorism, from flying to San Francisco on 9/10/01. Alternatively, Glick was not deterred by the fire, but rather used the fire as an excuse to travel on 9/11/01.
4) Todd was worried about the workweek of 9/11/01. Previously, Todd had always been excited about work, even during challenging times. Now, Todd was worried.
5) Jonathan Oomrigar, a co-worker with whom Todd had traveled on business to Israel, was in Italy with Todd and received a phone call from Todd on 9/11/01.
6) In September 2001, Todd's boss Larry Ellison owned 70% of an Israeli company.
7) Larry Ellison knew about Todd's heroics aboard United Airlines Flight 93 about one day before the FBI released that information to the public.
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So, were Todd Beamer, Jonathan Oomrigar, and Larry Ellison working on some operation for Israeli intelligence? Were Beamer, Oomrigar, and Ellison helping Israeli intelligence to perpetrate the United 93 portion of the 9/11 attacks?
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Larry Ellison profite des attaques pour obtenir des contrats afin de développer les cartes biométriques et les systèmes qui fonctionnent avec :
http://www.govexec.com/dailyfed/020102ti.htm
Tech Insider: The homeland security market boom
By Shane Harris
sharris@govexec.com
A new column from Government Executive, "Tech Insider" looks at how business gets done in the federal technology market. Learn from the inside players in government and industry how deals are made.
Players big and small in the federal technology game have their knives out and are carving up a brand new market: homeland security.
The Sept. 11 terrorist attacks have spurred the biggest push yet toward a vision of seamless, electronically integrated government that tech firms have spent years pitching to federal agencies. With agencies finally willing to act, it's feeding time for companies.
In the four months since the attacks, dozens of technology companies have tried to sell themselves as the answer to the government's security prayers. Suddenly, projects like a multi-million dollar database integration effort for the entire federal law enforcement community, explosive detection equipment for luggage screening at every U.S. airport and new surveillance technologies for the domestic war on terrorism are all possible, and they're all business.
Between the slew of daylong security seminars hosted at the Washington offices of top technology contractors and the endless stream of association- and consultant-sponsored breakfast training sessions on how to sell to the government, corporate marketing, sales and acquisition teams are working overtime.
Some, like Oracle, the leading seller of database software to the government, stepped onstage early. In the days after Sept. 11, Oracle CEO Larry Ellison put the company that built its business on the public sector smack in the middle of the homeland security agenda by calling for the creation of a national identification card and offering to help build the data system behind it. Ellison has been pushing the security mantra for years and now appears more ready than ever to make the vision a reality. Meanwhile, company officials remain focused on making sure the technology to do the job will actually work.
E-government, the long-vaunted recipe for making government act more like a business, is playing a new role as companies hope to repackage database integration and usability as the pillars of the emerging culture of cross-agency information sharing. Many firms are betting that linking together agency's "stovepipes" of information - a move that e-government proponents have always advocated - will allow law enforcement, defense and intelligence agencies to finally start reading from the same page.
Systems integration firm Unisys is thus readying its e-government playbook, which, luckily for the company, was written mainly by the president's new point man on e-government, Mark Forman, when he served as a vice president for e-business at Unisys.
Ira Kirsch, the new president of the company's federal practice - tapped to bring the errant group back into the corporate fold - says the company will pattern its e-government offerings after Forman's model, which Forman is busy touting in front of every gathering of federal and corporate decision-makers he can shake his Power Point at.
Unisys feels its standing in the eyes of the administration isn't hurt by the fact that Homeland Security Director Tom Ridge is an old friend of the Blue Bell, Pa., company from his days as Pennsylvania's governor. Unisys chairman and CEO Larry Weinbach met with Ridge not long after the September attacks.
The homeland security market is so filled with buzz at the moment that getting customers to pay attention to the screaming masses of vendors is tough.
Some firms have made bold moves to make their case.
Consider software manufacturer Siebel Systems, which re-pitched its signature software, a contact management system, as a way to integrate intelligence, immigration and criminal information on terrorists in real-time.
The company took out full-page ads in Washington publications, including Government Executive, featuring a surveillance photo of the alleged ringleader of the Sept. 11 assault walking through the security checkpoint at the Portland, Maine, airport. The ad asks, "Who are the Mohamed Attas of tomorrow?"
Other smaller players have made fast work of setting up partnerships up with established giants, as biometrics boutique Viisage Technology did when it agreed in mid-October to sell its facial recognition security technology through Unisys' existing contracts.
Still others have opted to buy up the companies needed to meet new homeland security needs, as evidenced by explosive detection device manufacturer L-3 Communications' recent purchase of the X-Ray scanning equipment division of instrument manufacturer PerkinElmer for $100 million in cash. L-3 is one of only two manufacturers in the United States that makes bomb-scanning equipment used to search airline passengers' luggage. The 2001 Aviation Security Act requires all airports to deploy such technology by the end of the year.
Clearly, the market is jumping, but do these moves represent a redefining of the federal technology market altogether? Not really, experts say.
"Every good company out there can take what they do and reposition it for homeland defense," says Roger Baker, the former chief information officer of the Commerce Department and now executive vice president for telecommunications and information assurance at Arlington, Va.-based systems integrator CACI.
While cozying up to Tom Ridge doesn't hurt your image, Baker says the money will be spent by current customers - the individual agencies whose security needs have become top priorities. That's where companies looking to score have to make their plays, and, in that sense, the game hasn't changed a bit.
Agency leaders are now engaged in the hard work of assessing how their missions have changed. Once that work is complete, Baker believes CIOs will try to convince those leaders that technology can help secure the homeland.
In the meantime, as market experts say, put your ear to the ground. That rumble you hear is the quickly increasing pace of industry feet on the street.
=> In the days after Sept. 11, Oracle CEO Larry Ellison put the company that built its business on the public sector smack in the middle of the homeland security agenda by calling for the creation of a national identification card and offering to help build the data system behind it. Ellison has been pushing the security mantra for years and now appears more ready than ever to make the vision a reality. Meanwhile, company officials remain focused on making sure the technology to do the job will actually work.
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